first of all i agree with you

im working for a online poker site to test those programms on private tables so IF there really is a programm that do work it will quickliy get fixed

btw sorry for my bad english

and now there is the really shocking part in it there really was 2 programms that work wich is something i never belive that it is possible but it only takes 3 days and it was fixed cause we find the security hole they were hacking inside there opponets cpu and not into the poker software they made a screeshot and get it back but the way that they can change is hole cards is not possible but like i tell you its fixed but i dont tell you how we do it cause maybe someone then find another way to hack it

The real cheating you have to worry about at online sites are the sites themselves. They all use a parody algorythmn in their programming. They do also use house players & bots. They view this as essential to their survival because professional no limit players could easily multitable & bust weak players. The sites do not want good players winning. They want to keep everyone on the same level so that they can maintain their player bases. I have played more hands online than anyone I know, I used to be the biggest cash player on Full Tilt poker. All sites will allow you to win when new to the sites, The more you play & multitable the bigger the handicap you will have. These sites are all crooked & none of them regulated. Ive been playing for a living for 7-8 years & I win more & at a higher percentage than any player I play with at the stakes I play, I’ve never met anyone that I felt played any better than I do. I also used to crush the big games on Full Tilt. One day my account could no longer win at any level. Even small tables where players played everyhand. I have done studies & proved statistical anomalies within online poker as well as a couple of players that now post on 2+2 forums. I suggest never playing online poker again if you want to keep your bankroll.

Kevin

When I first started playing online poker Planet poker & paradise were the only ones. Online poker was easily beatable if you were a good player. As the poker boom expanded so obviously did the sites. The problem was No limit popularity. Casinos don’t like No limit games because the good players have such a huge edge over weaker players. Thats why pot limit holdem died out years ago & limit took over. When a form of the pot limit came back {no limit holdem} it was done in tournament format so players would not go bust. Popularity obviously took over & no limit cash games started to spread. Like any cycle it had to peak so with new online sites popping up eventually there too much supply. Online sites know this so to attract new players they give out bonuses & allow what i call a Honeymoon period of really good cards in the beginning to get them hooked. I have had over 60 accounts from different sites not including accounts I’ve had under friends names at some of the larger sites. The same pattern exist everytime. Once the sites codes you as a shark & threat to their player pool you will be targeted. You will no longer win. I find it funny that I can log into an account that I haven’t played in months & will absolutely run over the deck but once I start playing the account regularly the run will turn into colddecks. Sites such as fulltilt also put house robots on the table to help fill them & target certain players they don’t want on the site. These robots have recently been identified on 2+2, They all log in at the same time & never play same table, They pause the same time in between decisions etc. I find it funny because me & some of my friends have watched them for years. Its only now being looked at because of the absolute poker scandal, which is a joke. The Kahnawake gaming commission was obviously allowing this to happen. Joe Norton (head chief) is the sole owner of Tokwiro enterprises which owns absolute poker, They also house all of the servers to most online sites in one single building in Canada on the Indian tribe land because obviously its illegal to do it elsewhere. Iglobal media which makes party poker software has also proven itself as a crooked enterprise as it used to gaff software for roulette & slot machines. They were caught in the past. All of these sites are infiltrated with crooks.

As far as proof, I am a no limit & PLO player but just to prove my point, I used to sit in 6 max limit games where players would play every hand or almost everyhand. I would use pretty much a 6 max starting hand chart that was designed to play perfect mathmatical starting hands at a typical 6 max table & adjust it according to how the table was playing. I used limit so I could record showdown hands. I knew exactly what to come in with under the gun, It was all reraise or fold with 6 max, No cold calling unless several limpers & was a hand like j10 or qj suited that played mulitiway well. In the small blind you either folded or reraised the button raise to get BB to pay or get out. Never smooth call a late position raise from SB. I had the strategy perfected completely. When I was knew to full tilt I played mostly NL, but also played the 30 60 & bigger limit games & crushed them. After I started doing these studies I would find very weak games & use this stategy just to prove I was playing with a handicap. It was amazing. I recorded thousands of hands & would get my brains beat out everytime by players playing 3 gappers UTG & then cold calling 2 & 3 bets behind them. They would beat you everytime. In a live game these guys would go broke, especially at the same pace as online poker. AK, you would lose to A3, KK & A would flop, You flop a set set, board would read 789 all suits etc. Its all in the progamming that the site gives each player. Everyone pretty much wins & loses the same , but the rake takes it all eventually. Some players are allowed to win for long periods of time to create the illusion that it is random & some people win, but eventually they will run into the doom switch. Believe me, If it was random I would be playing 4 tables or better everyday. It would be a goldmine like it was when I first started. None of the best NL players I know will touch online anymore. They all know the truth. As a matter of fact Full Tilt & poker stars both offered me a good sum of money to wear their logo on TV , but I refused because of integrity & principle.

As far as the pros, Its really them, I used to play with them all, especially 2004 when I was playing the most on Full Tilt, I used to play Juanda heads up a lot , Paul wolfe, matasow, ivey, Cunningham, bloch. I’ve played them all & beat them regulary, However I will say that these guys play much bigger games & didn’t play their A game because Juanda use to tell me this. I understand because I play up to 25 50NL & 25 50PLO & sometimes higher if there is a game, but have hard time trying to apply myself to 2 5NL now because of the stakes. Anyways I’ve met several of them in Vegas & they remembered my screen name & a couple of them remember specific hands we played. You may find this surprising , but I know of a several pros that have told me that they can’t win online either & they know something isn’t right, but still take the sponsership money. Others just stay quite & won’t comment. So take it for what its worth. I know its hard to believe, but to some people so were Enron, Worldcom etc. When it comes to big money you’d be surprised what a corporation will do.

Gene,

Yes it is, Thank you

I would probably recognize you if I saw you, but can’t tell much by the picture online. Let me know next time you play with me, I read gulfcoast poker every so often.

I normally don’t play tournaments, but have played a few the past few months & have faired pretty well. I’ve always played cash because of the larger luck factor in tournaments & the top heavy payouts, I used to think it was difficult for a good player to get a large edge in tourneys because of the shallow stacks compared to the blinds, but I think I’ve found another edge to exploit in these things. So far so good. I may play a few more in the future. Especially this summer in vegas if I can get away from the PLO games.

As far as screen names , I have had lots of different screen names at different sites & I really only play now just for experimentation & mostly smaller stakes.

Kevin, Thank you

I definately understand your position, Its very difficult to believe. If not for all the research into how the industry works & the data on millions of hands Ive played then I would find it hard to believe as well. As far as bots, What I really worry about are house bots that could be programmed to receive timely hands. I would find it difficult to believe that bots could be programmed by players to beat real pro players. I think the players could exploit them after they realized what was going on. Maybe one day there will be some real regulation in the industry, however when there is that much money at stake there will always be chance for corruption. I use to be a financial advisor & daytrader, Unfortunately there is still corruption in financial markets as well after numerous attempts to regulate it. Anyway in the meantime we can agree to disagree, Good luck to you

this post is directed to the author of this article as well as gabe costner.

i’m a fairly new poker player, and this as well as other news gleaned from the internet has come as quite a shock to me.

initially, i was a bit paranoid about killer bots and cheat programs.

but what about players like tom dwan (durrr), di dang hac dang as well as some of the other high-stakes millionares? are they flukes, or just not yet on their downward spiral? i saw a hand where tom dwang’s opponent flopped quad tens and dwan still won with a straight flush. what is going on there?

what about your opinions on poker trackers and stuff like that.

i love poker so much, and to see all this… reality is disheartening, i’m only 20 and i wouldn’t prefer to be jaded so young.

i guess i can merely accept pokertracker as a evolved facet of today’s online game.

and i think you are right. i don’t know how accurate it is to say that full tilt or any of the other sites are actively head-hunting some of the better players when they already make SO much money just hosting the dang poker games.

of course there are conspiracies about everything, and conclusions are drawn from grains of truth.

your insight HAS helped. i feel a lot better about the state of all things poker. undoubtedly i will be online for years to come. maybe someday i will make enough money and i will know the truth for myself.

Skinny,

GREAT POINT!! Gabe, explain your theory about automatic shuffle machines in poker and how they are designed to beat the better players. While your at it, any 911 theorys??

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